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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: A quick update to he RAM module CAS latency # Reply with quote

I just tried another Kingston # RAM module as shown in my previous post, but after purchasing a second one, this modual has Hynix chips on it with a CAS latency of 6 , rather than a CAS of 5 as the original Kingston 2GB module I had.

*** EDITED June-2014 ***
Here's a photo of the chip numbers on the module with CAS 6
The "FP-S6" denotes a CAS 6 speed.



If you buy it thru eBay, or other online methods,
ask the seller to look for these Hynix chip#'s on the module,
before you purchase. To make sure it's the CAS 6 speed.

Kingston 200 pin PC2-6400 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Memory KTH-ZD8000B/2G
Check eBay for these, if you want the fastest.
Kingston's website doesn't seem to list the 800MHz 200 pin version any longer

Other manufacturers brands may also work, as long as it's PC2-6400
200 pin 800MHz modules - CAS 6 (CL-6) - un-buffered - Non-ECC - DDR2 - 1.8 volt
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The CAS 5 just gave a maximum mem clock speed of 300MHz (667MHz)
But the CAS 6 gives 400MHz (800MHz) max mem clock speed.

Playback of all my HD video formats got faster (smoother) with this one chip, compared to the CAS 5 RAM.

Now I'm surely going to put the missing RAM socket in ... For Dual-channel RAM memory operation.

This will speed-up the overall playback speeds of the HD video even more, with a matched set of the same brand, CAS latency , and size RAM.
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320GB WD 2.5" H.D. / 2GB RAM
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EVGA GeForce 7600 GT PCIe x16 card, (in x1 speed)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Magicjack support, tips, tricks, and hacks

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:12 am    Post subject: Maybe my last post regarding this mod, I don't know... Reply with quote

Hi everyone,
Recent events has, for now, (maybe forever), caused me to stop working on this mod. ... My Mom passed away recently.

I will update you now, regarding the dual-core activation in Windows XP Embedded OS ... It's not the amount of RAM used that activates the 2nd core.

You will need to put the special files XP Pro (sp3) uses to activate the second core, into your XPe installation.

If you google for the procedure and XP files needed to do this, there are several links showing how.

If you're going to use the full XP Pro (sp3) you'll be able to activate the dual-core just by installing the new processor... nothing else is needed to be added, because the full XP has the files needed to do it, already in there.

If I ever feel like coming back to continue discussing the mod, I will, but for now this is it.

BYE...!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:27 am    Post subject: This got me going, then I see HP did this already Reply with quote

I remember reading this thread a few months back, and being interested in this mod. I even bought a couple of X2 CPUs to try. Since then I've found out a couple of things - adding the second surface mount RAM connector would be about impossible for DIY, even if you could find it, and besides, it's already been done... by HP! The HP GT7720 (XPe) and GT7725 (Linux) use this chipset (mobo looks close to identical), with a dual core 2.3GHz Turion X2 Ultra (and a fan), and dual channel memory. Externally, the boxes are identical, including the I/O panel. Power supply is 19V (90 or 120W), however. Video is integrated HD 3200.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I would like to ask you, if you can draw pin-out where in the proprietary connector (physically PCI-E 16x) in T5730 is located PCI-E 1x ?

because with this knowledge I can use one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Express-x16-PCI-E-16X-Extension-Riser-Card-Flexible-Extender-Cable-24CM-/181334302995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a385de113

and cross cables, that PCI-E 1x will be match and the rest will be unconnected....


Thank you for your advice in advance,

Alfieri21
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have that information. Probably easier to just buy the riser if you can find it, or the whole expansion module.

I'm away from home at the moment, but I'll take a closer look at the risers when I'm back. Perhaps some deduction of the pin locations can be made.

Or, just buy the one I have on eBay! These come up fairly often there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoolin01 wrote:
I don't have that information. Probably easier to just buy the riser if you can find it, or the whole expansion module.

I'm away from home at the moment, but I'll take a closer look at the risers when I'm back. Perhaps some deduction of the pin locations can be made.

Or, just buy the one I have on eBay! These come up fairly often there.


Hi spoolin01,

I saw your offer on eBay, I am the one who made a request about shipping cost to Europe (nick Alfieri21). But shipping price almost the same as selling price of item => it is just too much.

If you can try visually and maybee "beeps" it with multimetr?
(I do not know the proper english phrase to this. I mean use a resistance-tester (ohmmeter) to figure out if something is connected and testers usually have a piezo buzzer which beeps when the resistance is small => verb "beeps" it)

If you can, it will be more than really nice from you!

Thank you in advance,
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:43 pm    Post subject: It's not a standard PCIe connector on the ThinClient Reply with quote

Hello, I saw your private message, but figure others can benefit from this info publicly.

The Expansion socket on the ThinClient T5730 is not a standard pin out of a PCIe socket.

It may have x4 wiring available, but it's PCIe adapter, from the expansion-kit, is just wired for PCIe-x1

That adapter you link to, from eBay, will short the ThinClient out, or blow-out trace patterns on that eBay adapter.
I know this because I tried it, before finding out the connector on the T5730 isn't wired as a standard PCIe connector, because it's a HP proprietary circuit.

You can get the expansion-kit for it, where it has a PCIe x1 adapter,
and a PCI 32 standard adapter.

I used the PCIe x1 adapter, and cut off the back-piece of the plastic 1x connector on it so a PCIe x16 card will fit-in, then used plastic ties to hold the board into the adapter.

When I plug the adapter into the ThinClient expansion connector, with the 16x PCIe graphic card, it works perfectly, in 1x mode, and makes the graphics faster than using a normal PCI graphics card. The ThinClient may be wired for x4 but the adapter isn't.

I'm able to use Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit, with the Media Center Add-On, and can record/playback shows without ANY skipping of the frames.
I'm also using an old Fusion5HDTV USB Gold Tuner with this configuration.
Win8.1 has it's own driver for the Dvico Fusion Tuners, and all worked together well.

I also used a cheap EVGA G-force 7600 GT - PCIe x16 card that was under USD$25.00, with shipping Smile

alfieri21 wrote:
Hi, I would like to ask you, if you can draw pin-out where in the proprietary connector (physically PCI-E 16x) in T5730 is located PCI-E 1x ?

because with this knowledge I can use one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Express-x16-PCI-E-16X-Extension-Riser-Card-Flexible-Extender-Cable-24CM-/181334302995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a385de113

and cross cables, that PCI-E 1x will be match and the rest will be unconnected....


Thank you for your advice in advance,

Alfieri21

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320GB WD 2.5" H.D. / 2GB RAM
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: It's not a standard PCIe connector on the ThinClient Reply with quote

momo wrote:

It may have x4 wiring available, but it's PCIe adapter, from the expansion-kit, is just wired for PCIe-x1


What about the expansion set for succesor, for the T5740, code AZ551AA. By the pictures (just google search - images: http://tinyurl.com/q2ves76 ) it is looks like, that the PCI expansion board is the same one as the one in expansion module for T5730. But the PCIe board is different and just with PCIe x4, as you mentioned. Maybe this PCIe x4 should work with T5730. What do you think about it?

momo wrote:

That adapter you link to, from eBay, will short the ThinClient out, or blow-out trace patterns on that eBay adapter.


I know, the idea was to cut all cables and cross them, to connect to proper pins in proprietary HP connector to part in female part which correspond to PCIe x1. The rest should be unconnected. This should work, right? And for this I need the pin-out of PCIe x1 in proprietary HP connector.

momo wrote:

You can get the expansion-kit for it, where it has a PCIe x1 adapter,
and a PCI 32 standard adapter.


I know, but I bought T5735 for USD$35 and now the expansion kit with shipping from US to Europe will be USD$84 :-/


So can you find out the pin-out of PCIe x1 in proprietary HP connector in your machine? Please.

BR,
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: It's not a standard PCIe connector on the ThinClient Reply with quote

alfieri21 wrote:
momo wrote:

It may have x4 wiring available, but it's PCIe adapter, from the expansion-kit, is just wired for PCIe-x1


What about the expansion set for succesor, for the T5740, code AZ551AA. By the pictures (just google search - images: http://tinyurl.com/q2ves76 ) it is looks like, that the PCI expansion board is the same one as the one in expansion module for T5730. But the PCIe board is different and just with PCIe x4, as you mentioned. Maybe this PCIe x4 should work with T5730. What do you think about it?

I found a photo of that PCIe adapter on eBay and saw it had wiring differences from the one for the T5730
Yes it's a x4 Riser, but the power pins are different, as well as others.


momo wrote:

That adapter you link to, from eBay, will short the ThinClient out, or blow-out trace patterns on that eBay adapter.


I know, the idea was to cut all cables and cross them, to connect to proper pins in proprietary HP connector to part in female part which correspond to PCIe x1. The rest should be unconnected. This should work, right? And for this I need the pin-out of PCIe x1 in proprietary HP connector.

way too much work, PLUS the wiring needed by that may cause EMI/RFI interference on the board and stop it from working, or make the image degrade the x1 PCIe speed.


momo wrote:

You can get the expansion-kit for it, where it has a PCIe x1 adapter,
and a PCI 32 standard adapter.


I know, but I bought T5735 for USD$35 and now the expansion kit with shipping from US to Europe will be USD$84 :-/

I know what you mean, but it originally cost US$600.00
Modifying it always cost something. Wink


So can you find out the pin-out of PCIe x1 in proprietary HP connector in your machine? Please.

I've been trying to find that same thing.
If I had the schematic, I was going to design a custom x16 riser-card, but later found out it's just x1 or maybe up to x4, looking at the trace pattern on the Riser-card I have.

If you go to google, and put in the official part# for that T5730/35 PCI expansion kit, (GZ286AA) it may show an eBay auction for under $10 for it.

I got lucky, and that's what I paid, with $7 shipping, but outside USA usually shipping is more
Maybe you'll find one auctioned outside of USA...but shipping will always be part of it. Smile

Good luck....MoMo

-p.s.-
I just googled and found this one, where they're willing to accept your best offer.
It's starting with his "suggested" $49 price, but he'll accept less
Was this the one you saw, costing over $80 with shipping?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCIe-x1-or-PCI-expansion-module-for-HP-T5730-T5735-GZ286AA-PCI-e-/131205533316?pt=US_Thin_Clients&hash=item1e8c758e84

They are getting harder to find, & the longer you wait, the costlier it can get, unless someone on eBay doesn't know what it's worth. HaHa!

By the way- if you do get one, and decide to cut-off the back-plastic piece of the connector, so a x16 card fits-in, be VERY carful when you get to the bottom, even near the middle of that connector back plastic part, because the pins of the connector are close-by, and you can damage the ground pins if you're not careful

Here's a photo of it, from this auction page, close-up, until the link goes off. Wink
Copy it before the photo & auction link are gone.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/zHIAAOxyuR5TYY0-/$_57.JPG
(I removed the image display text from the link, 'cause it was making the thread display with very small text to show the full picture)


BR,
Alfieri21

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320GB WD 2.5" H.D. / 2GB RAM
(Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: It's not a standard PCIe connector on the ThinClient Reply with quote

momo wrote:

1)
I found a photo of that PCIe adapter on eBay and saw it had wiring differences from the one for the T5730
Yes it's a x4 Riser, but the power pins are different, as well as others.

2)
way too much work, PLUS the wiring needed by that may cause EMI/RFI interference on the board and stop it from working, or make the image degrade the x1 PCIe speed.

3)
I just googled and found this one, where they're willing to accept your best offer.
It's starting with his "suggested" $49 price, but he'll accept less
Was this the one you saw, costing over $80 with shipping?

4)
By the way- if you do get one, and decide to cut-off the back-plastic piece of the connector, so a x16 card fits-in, be VERY carful when you get to the bottom, even near the middle of that connector back plastic part, because the pins of the connector are close-by, and you can damage the ground pins if you're not careful



1)
Thank you very much for quick cross reference! Now I know, that it is incompatible. Thank you for your observation, you save me time and money

2)
It is actually "only" 18 cables/pins. I can shield this connection etc. But there still should be EMI/RFI, you are right. But still I am willing to give a try... Therefore I am still looking for PCIe x1 pin-out in HP proprietary connector...

3)
Yes it is! And even more, the seller is guy from this forum - spoolin01 (he answered first to my reopen of this topic)
- shipping USD 35 :-/ Now I am looking some friend who will travel from Czech Republic to US and back. I will use him as delivery boy Smile

4)
Thanks for warming me! In this case I will be carefull


Alfieri21


PS:
Other option should be Mini PCIe on bottom of the board. Mini PCIe -> PCIe x1 -> raiser cable to PCIe x16

- http://www.ebay.com/itm/261322251125?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
- http://masu.6f.sk/index.php?title=T5730_hwpcie
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delock-Riser-Card-PCIe-x1-PCIe-mini-Porterweiterungskarte-Adapterkarte-NEU-/151245129307?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item2336e9865b
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-PCI-E-PCI-express-to-PCI-E-1X-USB2-0-Card-adapter-Riser-Extender-test-tool-/121343188549?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item1c409e1e45
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCIE-1x-to-16x-riser-good-for-litecoin-mining-rig-/111359940667?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ed91d83b
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: It's not a standard PCIe connector on the ThinClient Reply with quote

You're very welcome. I admire your energy & hope you have more luck than I did trying to find the schematic (wiring diagram) of the HP connector or Riser card.

I even called HP and offered to purchase the schematic or repair manual, but they didn't have one.
They had the boards made by another company, for them.

----
Oh...another bit of info... That connector on the back of the motherboard isn't a Mini-PCIe ... It's a Compact Flash card connector.
*** EDITED --- silly me, there IS a Mini-PCIe trace pattern on the back. I never knew that. Embarassed
-----
You can read more about it on this British site, where I uploaded my original mods...
http://parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5730/mods.shtml

My mods start at the Sub-Heading of ... CPU - 2 ... On that page.

There have been others modding this T5730/35 as well, since my last posting there. He's added a "Mods 2" tab. Smile

As for the eBay Auction, have you tried to make an offer other than the $49 he suggests?

I'd say, $25 is a good start, maybe he'd say yes, being you need to add that high shipping costs of $35.

It's still less costly than having a friend travel here and back to your country, to pick-it-up.
(Funny joke...by the way... Wink )


alfieri21 wrote:
momo wrote:

1)
I found a photo of that PCIe adapter on eBay and saw it had wiring differences from the one for the T5730
Yes it's a x4 Riser, but the power pins are different, as well as others.

2)
way too much work, PLUS the wiring needed by that may cause EMI/RFI interference on the board and stop it from working, or make the image degrade the x1 PCIe speed.

3)
I just googled and found this one, where they're willing to accept your best offer.
It's starting with his "suggested" $49 price, but he'll accept less
Was this the one you saw, costing over $80 with shipping?

4)
By the way- if you do get one, and decide to cut-off the back-plastic piece of the connector, so a x16 card fits-in, be VERY carful when you get to the bottom, even near the middle of that connector back plastic part, because the pins of the connector are close-by, and you can damage the ground pins if you're not careful


1)
Thank you very much for quick cross reference! Now I know, that it is incompatible. Thank you for your observation, you save me time and money

2)
It is actually "only" 18 cables/pins. I can shield this connection etc. But there still should be EMI/RFI, you are right. But still I am willing to give a try... Therefore I am still looking for PCIe x1 pin-out in HP proprietary connector...

3)
Yes it is! And even more, the seller is guy from this forum - spoolin01 (he answered first to my reopen of this topic)
- shipping USD 35 :-/ Now I am looking some friend who will travel from Czech Republic to US and back. I will use him as delivery boy Smile

4)
Thanks for warning me! In this case I will be careful


Alfieri21


PS:
Other option should be Mini PCIe on bottom of the board. Mini PCIe -> PCIe x1 -> raiser cable to PCIe x16

- http://www.ebay.com/itm/261322251125?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
- http://masu.6f.sk/index.php?title=T5730_hwpcie
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delock-Riser-Card-PCIe-x1-PCIe-mini-Porterweiterungskarte-Adapterkarte-NEU-/151245129307?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item2336e9865b
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-PCI-E-PCI-express-to-PCI-E-1X-USB2-0-Card-adapter-Riser-Extender-test-tool-/121343188549?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item1c409e1e45
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCIE-1x-to-16x-riser-good-for-litecoin-mining-rig-/111359940667?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ed91d83b

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320GB WD 2.5" H.D. / 2GB RAM
(Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit)
EVGA GeForce 7600 GT PCIe x16 card, (in x1 speed)
New 12vdc 16 amp (192w) PSU


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: It's not a standard PCIe connector on the ThinClient Reply with quote

Hi,

actually my biggest chance to success are you, guys who have the expansion card and are willing to help. What I need are detailed photos and even better, someone, who will try to "beeps"* the PCIe x1 connector on expansion card with pins on this card.

*I do not know the proper english phrase to this. I mean use a resistance-tester (ohmmeter) to figure out if something is connected and testers usually have a piezo buzzer which beeps when the resistance is small => verb "beeps" it

According to this:
http://masu.6f.sk/extra/files/x86/t5730/pic/t5730_cf_pcie.JPG
http://masu.6f.sk/index.php?title=T5730_hwpcie
http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5730/links.shtml
http://masu.6f.sk/index.php?title=Category:T5730


and I checked the botttom side of my board. On the bottom are unpopulated CF card slot and mini PCIe.

For you the miniCPIe should work for WiFi, USB3, SATA etc. depend just on miniCPIe card.,,

And yes, I tried to make an offer. But more importantly, maybe I have a guy from US, who will travel to Czech Rep. to visit his famyli Smile Maybe my delivery boy Smile
And this guy will walk and over the water swim, so it will be cheap Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy (just joke too).

Best regards
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: It's not a standard PCIe connector on the ThinClient Reply with quote

This is interesting.
I didn't know it has that MiniPCIe socket layout pattern.

I never fully removed the main board when soldering the 4 wires for the PSU connector. I was able to find power lines near the end-corner and just removed those screws & lifted the boards corner to solder there. Smile

Edited, Sept.13th 2014 ... added info...
My T5730 Mods to add the 16 Amp (192 watt) PSU connector
http://imgur.com/a/MguHb


Is it a full x16 MiniPCIe or just x1 or x4 ?

I have another memory module, so my next planned Mod is adding the 2nd memory socket, but this is nice news, about the MiniPCIe.
It's funny it was shown on the other site that posted my other mods, and I never saw it. Laughing

Was "miniCPIe" a typo-error Smile or some new card?
If a SATA 2 or 3 controller with USB3 existed in MiniPCIe, I'd be interested to add the socket.
The older style 44-pin drives are getting hard to find, and are too small in GB now. And it would be nice to also have at least 1 USB3 socket for speed.

By the way...using an ohmmeter and hearing beeps, is a continuity test

Doing a pattern trace of a boards wiring is big work. You may save money on buying it made, but the time needed to trace-out the wires, and still need to build some connector/adapter ...is why I never tried tracing the wiring by looking at photos... Now you want me to do it, anyway... Smile Laughing

I don't mind taking photos, I have a 8.5 MPixel camera, so they'll be good and sharp. It has a macro-CloseUp lens too.

How many wires are you expecting to need tracing, and what's a decent hourly rate for this... HaHa..! Razz

I may want to visit another country, instead....! Wink

How'd you know I can walk over the water.
Swimming in it, is my problem.. Smile


alfieri21 wrote:
Hi,

actually my biggest chance to success are you, guys who have the expansion card and are willing to help. What I need are detailed photos and even better, someone, who will try to "beeps"* the PCIe x1 connector on expansion card with pins on this card.

*I do not know the proper english phrase to this. I mean use a resistance-tester (ohmmeter) to figure out if something is connected and testers usually have a piezo buzzer which beeps when the resistance is small => verb "beeps" it

According to this:
http://masu.6f.sk/extra/files/x86/t5730/pic/t5730_cf_pcie.JPG
http://masu.6f.sk/index.php?title=T5730_hwpcie
http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5730/links.shtml
http://masu.6f.sk/index.php?title=Category:T5730


and I checked the botttom side of my board. On the bottom are unpopulated CF card slot and mini PCIe.

For you the miniCPIe should work for WiFi, USB3, SATA etc. depend just on miniCPIe card.,,

And yes, I tried to make an offer. But more importantly, maybe I have a guy from US, who will travel to Czech Rep. to visit his famyli Smile Maybe my delivery boy Smile
And this guy will walk and over the water swim, so it will be cheap Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy (just joke too).

Best regards

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I am not sure, but I think, that mini PCIe is just form of PCIe x1. The change is in absence of 12V level and I am not sure how about USB in ordinary PCIe x1, but in miniPCIe is USB. But it is possible to convert miniPCIe to PCIe x1 and othervise. And the count of pins in miniPCIe should be "proof", that it is just x1.

With the second memory module, it sould be nice, but where to take the socket? Any idea? eBay link? I have no idea what key words use to find the proper one :-/

miniCPIe is typo, sorry.

and there are cards like 2x USB3:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XminiPCIe+USB3&_nkw=miniPCIe+USB3&_sacat=0&_from=R40

SATA ports:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XminiPCIe+SATA&_nkw=miniPCIe+SATA&_sacat=0&_from=R40

And the SATA adapter is SATA III 6Gbps...

And about tracing pins, please, take a detail photos, it would be nice from you.

My gues is, that I will have to trace 18 pins (PCIe x1). and with the cable raiser I will cut the cables (except the ones, wich are in proprietary connector on correct place) and solder them (maximum 18 cables). Soldering should take one hour and tracing? Who know? If it is possible to figure out it from pictures, than should be another hour, two?

But after one hour I can find out, that some traces are imposibble to follow and it will be the end.... But who knows.

Yeah walk on water, nothing new, right? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:38 pm    Post subject: Let me know if this is helpful Reply with quote

I took some photos two years ago,
The file name is ... HP T5730 PCIe - x1 Riser.zip

several views of the board.
I posted them to this other site link ...

http://www58.zippyshare.com/v/56176801/file.html
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*** EDITED - September 14th 2014 - ***

The above link has expired.
I've started a new photo account at a really cool site. You may think of using it too Smile

Here are the photos of the T5730 Expansion kits Riser-card,
plus 2 from the HP GT7725 that is compared to the T5730 in a composite photo, front and back views.

**** The new link to the Photos is... http://imgur.com/a/54Flr

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use the download button on the right-side of the page, not the ones showing in the ADS graphic below the files description. Smile

alfieri21 wrote:
Hi,

I am not sure, but I think, that mini PCIe is just form of PCIe x1. The change is in absence of 12V level and I am not sure how about USB in ordinary PCIe x1, but in miniPCIe is USB. But it is possible to convert miniPCIe to PCIe x1 and othervise. And the count of pins in miniPCIe should be "proof", that it is just x1.

With the second memory module, it sould be nice, but where to take the socket? Any idea? eBay link? I have no idea what key words use to find the proper one :-/

miniCPIe is typo, sorry.

and there are cards like 2x USB3:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XminiPCIe+USB3&_nkw=miniPCIe+USB3&_sacat=0&_from=R40

SATA ports:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XminiPCIe+SATA&_nkw=miniPCIe+SATA&_sacat=0&_from=R40

And the SATA adapter is SATA III 6Gbps...

And about tracing pins, please, take a detail photos, it would be nice from you.

My gues is, that I will have to trace 18 pins (PCIe x1). and with the cable raiser I will cut the cables (except the ones, wich are in proprietary connector on correct place) and solder them (maximum 18 cables). Soldering should take one hour and tracing? Who know? If it is possible to figure out it from pictures, than should be another hour, two?

But after one hour I can find out, that some traces are imposibble to follow and it will be the end.... But who knows.

Yeah walk on water, nothing new, right? Very Happy

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HP T5730 - AMD Turion 64 x2 Dual-Core 2.4GHz CPU
(TMDTL68HAX5DM)
320GB WD 2.5" H.D. / 2GB RAM
(Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit)
EVGA GeForce 7600 GT PCIe x16 card, (in x1 speed)
New 12vdc 16 amp (192w) PSU


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