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Good news : The FCC passed some ( watered down) net neutrality rules.
Among other things, what it does is prohibiting internet providers to block traffic which interferes with their core business- like Magic Jack does .
Not surprisingly, the Republicans already announced that they will try to overturn it. But for now, the big corporate dictatorship is a step further away. 8)
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cell14 wrote:Good news : The FCC passed some ( watered down) net neutrality rules.
Among other things, what it does is prohibiting internet providers to block traffic which interferes with their core business- like Magic Jack does .
Not surprisingly, the Republicans already announced that they will try to overturn it. But for now, the big corporate dictatorship is a step further away. 8)
Read the regulations yourself instead of getting it regurgitated from whatever news source you're hearing it from. I'm sure you will have a totally different perspective after discounting the 'spin'.
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cell14 wrote:Good news : The FCC passed some ( watered down) net neutrality rules.
Among other things, what it does is prohibiting internet providers to block traffic which interferes with their core business- like Magic Jack does .
Not surprisingly, the Republicans already announced that they will try to overturn it. But for now, the big corporate dictatorship is a step further away. 8)
If this act stopped at it's IMHO only good point that would be great! But the other measures are steps toward taking away Internet freedom and that is never a good thing.

It is not a partisan thing it is common sense; which isn't all that common any more.
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cell14 wrote:Good news : The FCC passed some ( watered down) net neutrality rules.
Among other things, what it does is prohibiting internet providers to block traffic which interferes with their core business- like Magic Jack does .
Not surprisingly, the Republicans already announced that they will try to overturn it. But for now, the big corporate dictatorship is a step further away. 8)
Big corporate dictatorship? Spoken like a true Lazy Liberal. Try hard not to make HuffPo or "The Daily Show" your only source of "news". Have you even taken the time to read WHY the Republicans (and some Dems) want to overturn it? Seriously? I have two books to recommendation to you, if you care to read: "1984" and "Animal Farm" by George Orwell.
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Spoken like a true Lazy Liberal
Keep it civilized, baby. I could also call you a Lazy Fascist.
I do not do Huffpo and I am not even aware of the " daily show".
And yes, I read both "Animal Farm" and "1984", both excellent books.
I did not intent to make this a general political discussion, considered the type of people frequenting here it could easily degrade, what i wanted to point out was how important it is that big corporate interests do not get control of the internet in such a way things like Magic Jack and other applications would become impossible. :roll:
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cell14 wrote:Good news : The FCC passed some ( watered down) net neutrality rules.
Among other things, what it does is prohibiting internet providers to block traffic which interferes with their core business- like Magic Jack does .
Not surprisingly, the Republicans already announced that they will try to overturn it. But for now, the big corporate dictatorship is a step further away. 8)
As usual, you always have to be careful what you wish for and are happy about. Here is an article from someone who is semi-neutral on the issue but thinks the law will lead to a two-tiered system. One for users who can afford to pay for lots of bandwidth use (and his prediction is that price may go way up) and another one for us poor people.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- ... mainpromo1

So while we may be able to afford MagicJack we may not be able to afford the monthly internet connection fee.

You will get different opinions all over the map, but my personal opinion is that anyone who thinks that the government is going to do anything but screw this up must be living in a different country than me.
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cell14 wrote: I did not intent to make this a general political discussion, considered the type of people frequenting here it could easily degrade
And no offense, but how could you expect anything but a general political discussion when you look at what your first post was?

And what type of people frequent here? Those who respond to posts that are not too well thought out, ill-informed and semi-moronic? Guilty.
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And what type of people frequent here? Those who respond to posts that are not too well thought out, ill-informed and semi-moronic? Guilty.
What type of response did you expect to a personal insult? Especially, if it comes from a corner where such things happened in the past.
No , I did not expect a Nobel price for a posting in the Lounge.
I was just happy about ONE aspect of the FCC ruling .
BTW, I fully agree with the article you provided the link for.
You will get different opinions all over the map, but my personal opinion is that anyone who thinks that the government is going to do anything but screw this up must be living in a different country than me.
Yes we may have different opinions on this, but my personal one is that anyone who thinks that the government should not regulate and leave it to the big coorporate tu run the country must live in a different solar system.
I hope that my response was not too moronic. :wink:
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cell14 wrote: considered the type of people frequenting here
It wasn't a personal insult, it was a response to the obvious semi-moronic statement made above.
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cell14 wrote: What type of response did you expect to a personal insult? Especially, if it comes from a corner where such things happened in the past.
And I'm not sure what corner you are referring to, but I would encourage you to post any insult I have said to anyone that wasn't in response to a personal insult. And yes I think "considering the type of people who frequent here" is a personal insult to everyone who posts here.
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Dan can easily add a new, more expensive plan to the existing one that will allow users to call the blocked areas.
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cell14 wrote: but my personal one is that anyone who thinks that the government should not regulate and leave it to the big coorporate tu run the country must live in a different solar system.
I hope that my response was not too moronic.
Well yea it is kind of moronic. Lets get the government involved in everything, like the health care system too. Some people (I'm sure not you of course) seem to think that's a great idea. Because gee, they have done such a GREAT job with their previous running of health care systems like the Veterans Association health care.

Ask the people in China how much they like the government deciding their internet policies.
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Well yea it is kind of moronic
OK, one more . (I will try to change my acronym to "moron 14") :roll:
good government= good policies
bad goverment = bad policies
evil government (china) = evil policies

There has been a tendency in the U.S.( I would say, at least since 1995) to create increasingly miserable government a increasingly corrupt, incompetent and hollow governnmental structures ( motto : government does not work and we will prove it ). That in addition to a political system which less and less deserves the label "western democracy" .
Anyway, lets enjoy our MJ before the chinese foreclose on the debt and take over everything incl. my miserable ISP . :wink:
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cell14 wrote:bad goverment = bad policies
Having been a close watcher of our government in action since the Vietnam war, I tend to change that to:

any government intervention = bad policies.

I am hard pressed to think of anything in the last 40 years that they have not screwed up.

The internet has done a pretty good job of working without the US government getting involved in a material way. Disputes tend to work themselves out. If they don't, then Washington can step in with a big foot and mediate. But getting involved like they are because something MAY happen is insane.

All the conflicts between cable providers and various networks seem to eventually work out. People may miss NBC for a day or two, but it always gets resolved.

You've got numbnuts in Congress that want to get involved in NCAA football because they don't have a playoff system. The NBA is looking at a lockout next year. That's going to affect a lot of jobs at the arenas and bars, lets pass a law and stop it.

If Comcast and Netflix get in a pissing match, the president can have a beer summit with them and knock some heads together and fix it in a day. You don't need to give the FCC more power to end up screwing up the internet. Do a Google search at the restrictions the UK is going to put on content because of some irresponsible parents. They are proposing to block ALL adult content going over the internet in the UK. You will have to opt-in. Doesn't sound like a bad idea, but what's next that they don't like? It's the proverbial slippery slope.

And your comment was semi-moronic because "considered the type of people frequenting here" paints yourself with the same brush since you frequent here as well. If you want to keep compounding it with more semi-moronic statements, that is your prerogative.
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cell14 wrote:
Spoken like a true Lazy Liberal
Keep it civilized, baby. I could also call you a Lazy Fascist.
You could, baby, but you'd be inaccurate. The opposite of a Lazy Liberal would be a Lazy Conservative. Had I called you a Lazy Socialist, then you could have fired back with a "Lazy Fascist" label. I'm a moron who is more than happy to teach another moron something new. Consider this a "teaching moment" offered at no extra charge.
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