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slsmag
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: SDIO Card - passing the buck Reply with quote

I think you made your own point. Why add on-board Wi-Fi if few people will actually use it and the addition increases the retail cost and cost of support?

SDIO functionality makes perfect sense. Particularly for the minority of users who have their routers mounted in places that would not be close enough or in the right room/place to connect a telephone to their Magic Jack.

The choice to add SDIO functionality is win/win for YMax and consumers.

greenman wrote:
There really should be on-board wifi - not an external card.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Magicjack support, tips, tricks, and hacks

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't do it, get smart people!!! Reply with quote

Jacked_Up wrote:
When I started out with jack it was $20 a year, and now it's $30, so they are known for raising prices at will...

They also cut off call forwarding for me without notice when they stated it was a "feature"...

...New pricing is bound to roll in sooner or later, that much you can be certain about.

I assume you are affiliated?... perhaps wanting to keep the business alive when it's not such a great choice anymore. Why else would your signature tout using a "standard magic jack" in this day and age? ...say hello to Mr. Carlo and his cute dogs if you will. : )


A) It's still $20/year if you prepay for 5 years.

B) I agree that their handling of call forwarding service has been TERRIBLE.

C) Pricing and availability of ALL companies' products and services changes EVERY DAY. That is the nature of free enterprise; if you don't like it and prefer that everything always stay the same consider relocating to North Korea.

D) As far as your final comments go - No I am NOT in any way affiliated with the company other than being a customer, and in making the final comments that you did you are acting and speaking as the Internet TROLL that you are... and I do not feed trolls. So sayonara, troll.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't do it, get smart people!!! Reply with quote

It would helpful/useful to the guy if you pointed out that it is a common, courteous and helpful practice for those using hardware/software specific bulletin boards (like this one) to list in their bulletin board 'signature' the hardware/software they personally use. :)

SteveHC wrote:

D) As far as your final comments go - No I am NOT in any way affiliated with the company other than being a customer, and in making the final comments that you did you are acting and speaking as the Internet TROLL that you are... and I do not feed trolls. So sayonara, troll.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't do it, get smart people!!! Reply with quote

slsmag wrote:
It would helpful/useful to the guy if you pointed out that it is a common, courteous and helpful practice for those using hardware/software specific bulletin boards (like this one) to list in their bulletin board 'signature' the hardware/software they personally use. Smile

SteveHC wrote:

D) As far as your final comments go - No I am NOT in any way affiliated with the company other than being a customer, and in making the final comments that you did you are acting and speaking as the Internet TROLL that you are... and I do not feed trolls. So sayonara, troll.


- This particular guy doesn't care; based on his previous posts I can honestly say that he's just being a genuine troll.

I do enough writing on a LOT of websites throughout the 'net such that I have no difficulty in nor problem with publicly identifying and then subsequently refusing to feed specifically identified trolls. They waste too many people's time, deliberately post inflammatory comments just for the sake of being nasty and/or argumentative, and in general do that simply because they think it somehow "supports" whatever their bizarre "agenda" happens to be. I have NO patience for them whatsoever (as you by now might have guessed LOL). But I generally identify and respond to a troll only once, and from then on totally ignore it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: SDIO Card - passing the buck Reply with quote

slsmag wrote:
I think you made your own point. Why add on-board Wi-Fi if few people will actually use it and the addition increases the retail cost and cost of support?

SDIO functionality makes perfect sense. Particularly for the minority of users who have their routers mounted in places that would not be close enough or in the right room/place to connect a telephone to their Magic Jack.

The choice to add SDIO functionality is win/win for YMax and consumers.

greenman wrote:
There really should be on-board wifi - not an external card.
Point taken! I guess price point does make a difference, and making the possibility of wifi available is better than not. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got the new MJ+ 2014 edition in the mail today. What can I say about it? Well. I'm a rather IMHO advanced computing systems guy for a profession, so I wasn't expecting much. I also own 2 of the original MJ USB designed dongles.

Before our storm power outage

1. Unbagged the unit - Nicely shipped actually with foam inserts surrounding the unit and cabling
2. plugged the power end to the end of the mj+
3. plugged it all hanging vertically from a wall mounted powerstrip. Connections held friction force just fine even with the ethernet and phone cable plugged in.
4. Attached to analog fxo port on a Nortel BCM200 phone switch where my old MJ was plugged into (My main device serviced by a server in the basement)
5. I was able to make an incredibly clear call to 18882472425 (New TellMe number)
6. Was amazed I could actually hear a difference in voice recognition, echo cancellation, and return path voice from the service. ummm wow. Was NOT expecting to be able to notice it, let alone to make a free outbound call without registering.
7. Registered my unit online via instructions, and transferred my main previous number to the mj+ as NEW additional. Now both mjs answer to the same number when called inbound.. That's pretty cool actually. A lot of services will NOT let you do that.
8. Made a few inbound calls to the house from ATT cell phone that has known Callerid issues even to real POTS phones..
9. Marvelled that callerid picked up correctly on the right cadence timing correctly and every time. NO resistor trick across the pair like with the original MJ devices.
10. My wife noticed that we don't get echo on the calls any more like we used to. It appears with the additional processing power, better codec and echo cancellation code, that this new MJ+ is working correctly.

EDIT: Forgot to add that right after we go power back on at the house. The ONLY phone provider that worked first was the MJ+

The TimeWarner phone service was still initializing, and the GoogleVoice via RaspberryPi on IncrediblePBX was still initializing and synching to the BCM200, but the MJ+ was fully up and could pass calls first of all of them.

Bravo.

Now what do I want? Access to the SIP credentials and hash set for integration to Asterisk directly again. I've stated it many times that MJ has the BEST VOIP infrastructure of anyone out there but the worst end user converters. This goes a long way to getting it right, but I would still like to directly integrate via digital protocol instead of pulling it through analog to my systems.

BUT hey, for 29.95 pls shipping and fees. the 41.xx bucks was the best I've spent on speculative voip products in a long time!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"ppuskari" - Yeah, there'a a huge improvement when going from the original magicJack device to the new "2014" MJ+. But whether or not there's any noticeable difference between the original MJ+ and this new version - at least right now - is extremely questionable
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Graham Hall
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:10 pm    Post subject: 2014 MJ Plus Reply with quote

I recently fell for the misleading advertising and purchased the 2014 MJ plus. I have had magicjack service since 2008. I migrated from the original USB version to the plus in September 2011. My only complaint with the original plus was the low volume. I purchased the new version in the hope that it would have improved. there is no difference in the level of volume between the new model and the previous one. The biggest problem with the new version is that the DTMF tones are not recognized by all automated systems. I run a small business and I am required to call payments into an automated banking system. I had never had problems in the past with the two previous MJ versions. However once I am in the system with the prompt to select English etc, the system does not recognize the tones. I have tried numerous phones and the result is the same. All of the phones I tried work perfectly with my old MJ plus. Thankfully MJ is my secondary phone service and I am able to fall back on my primary phone service. In my opinion, the upgrade to the 2014 is not an upgrade at all at this point. :cry:
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do like others do, return the 2014 MJ+.
If enough new owners return their '14 MJ+ with an explanation why, Dan may take it seriously enough to give an update /fix for this problem now.

They HAVE FIXED IT!


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ZAMBOO
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

got the same problem as you graham hall but i speak to Marianne a high level tech and what she does is...

Marianne: We just need to refresh your connection here, No need to worry as I have already corrected everything here and that should flawlessly working now

and everything is work no more dtmf issue Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It worked. Thanks for the advice. I called MJ chat and was handled very swiftly. Ollie, told me to unplug the 2014 while he refreshed the account. A minute later, I plugged it back and was able to navigate through the system. Thanks again for your help. I did consider calling them before seeing your post but dismissed it as a waste of time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that there are adjustments at their end to be made in order to make DTMF tones work with this new version... good to hear that they found a way to make it work! Too bad, though, that their "registration" instructions make no mention of the need to chat with them to make it happen though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can also report some limited success. I started a live help chat from my.magicjack.com and the support rep did something on my account to make DTMF "stable". She immediately knew what I was talking about when I mentioned DTMF problems. After restarting everything I'm getting repeated first digits about 50% of the time when previously it was closer to 90%. I could just be imagining an improvement but it seems significantly better (though not completely fixed).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fjawodfc wrote:
I can also report some limited success. I started a live help chat from my.magicjack.com and the support rep did something on my account to make DTMF "stable". She immediately knew what I was talking about when I mentioned DTMF problems. After restarting everything I'm getting repeated first digits about 50% of the time when previously it was closer to 90%. I could just be imagining an improvement but it seems significantly better (though not completely fixed).


Guess you have to contact "support" again to get it 100% fixed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't do it, get smart people!!! Reply with quote

Comparing Google's Free phone-like service versus the MagicJack's service is indeed a no-brainer. With the Google-Phone-Like service You HAVE to be at a computer versus having (practically) a _real_phone_line_service_ into your home with the MJ's. (Just back-feed your existing house' phone wire installation in your home and you essentially HAVE a _real_ phone service - you'd probably notice NO difference between a "real phone service" and the MJ's.)

That wat the whole reason to trash the old MJ's in the first place. You had to rely on your computer being on, hope your OS wasn't doing or going through updates at 3am, then rebooting on your, or your computer lock-ups - then find yourself running back to your computer if any/either of those happens just to turn your phone "service" back on? Google "phone-like" service needing to worry about all of that stuff all over again. I don't think so there.

Dial 911 from Google's service - I don't think so. MJ's indeed support it.

MJ's for $30/year - for all _real_ phone features is indeed a no-brainer too. That's not exactly a lot of money for all the features. (And for a fax-line, another no-brainer) they work FINE as a fax-line. No problems at all!

RE: Dropped calls - MOST of the time, I'd be willing to include the possibility of it being your ISP using QOS to hassle the MJ customers, after all, the ISPs are in the phone-business, (which they're slowly losing to these other devices, i.e. Umbo's or what-ever they are) they'd rather have your $35/month rather than you give a couple of bucks to MJ's.

And/or your Internet service dropping a packet-or two. Don't blame the MJ's - there are other factors supporting 'drops' - too. I.e. if you're using WiFi, add that as a possible symptom too. (Your router.) Cox communication Internet service in New England is nearly flawless - I've not had ANY issues using my MJ's with their broadband.

MJ's $2->$3/month - (now with the _FREE_ app for the 'droid' users and iOS people so you can make those 'Google-Like' calls without consuming your cell-carrier's minutes too) indeed a no-brainer.

I've been using MJ's since they started - it's really a no-brainer. Choose one of those 'Google-Like" phone service and need/have to have a computer running, pay a monthly fee to Vonage (what $29/month?) or MJ's $3-ish/month.

Quality-wise, they're all getting VERY good (all of 'em) so let your Mr. Wallet make this decision for you - don't read those reviews from those who've been had paying a monthly fee. I'd be angry that MJ's are the best offer and I was stuck paying a monthly fee, to Vonage or those other new-bies trying to get into the phone business. (Phone's themselves are not catching-on by the way - AT&T/Verizon Wireless/TMobile all noticed that - they're not exactly trying to get your home-phone service any longer.) 'Nother no-brainer.

RE: MJ's constantly asking you to pay extra for this/that/and/or for a vanity # for example, just choose "no" at the prompts. After all, they are a business - of course they're wanting you to get more 'stuff.'

Dollar-for-dollar/feature-for-feature (EASE versus hassles) MJ's are indeed a no-brainer.

Jacked_Up wrote:
Ok, let's get real.

OBI 100 or 110 at Amazon. Includes a way to plug in your current magic jack line so all numbers can ring on the same phone, giving you an easy way to utilize your magicjack until that old junker expires or breaks down like mine did.

New Obi 100 for only 39 plus free shipping= (one free googleVoice line).
New Obi 110 for only 49 plus free shipping= (two free googleVoice lines).

OR the new 2014 magicjack for $38.90 (29.95 PLUS 8.95 shipping)
THEN pay jack a bunch more after 6 months! NO WAY! : )
NOTE: In the email solicitation, "jack" doesn't even say how much you are going to owe him in six months- so who knows how much your new jack servie is gonna cost you the coming years???

You do the math people. It's a no brainier.

Not only that, google has been generous enough to offer their free service for several years now, and it's guaranteed free until at least the end of each year, and believe me they can afford to keep it going for many years to come- (mainly because they do charge a penny a minute for overseas calls).

GoogleVoice service is TOP NOTCH!. Way better magic jack could ever dream of in my experience. EXTREMELY RELIABLE- I no longer get dropped calls or annoying echos. (There is a call limit of 90 minutes I think, but it rarely comes into play, just redial or get off the phone at that point!) Every feature you can possibly imagine, even unlimited texting straight from your computer keyboard and word translated (readable and voicemail), phone messages straight to your gmail inbox.

If you want free wi-fi magicjack on your cellphone, use the magicapp for your iphone or android currently only $10 bucks a year- that's a great deal wherever you have wi-fi. Other than than, forget it.

If you can't live without your existing jack number, (I love having a new number that call spammers don't know), then you can always first transfer your jack number to a cell service and then to google. It will cost you a bit of hassle to do that, but it's well worth it if you can't live without your existing number.

You are now set for many years to come! Absolute best bang for buck in my opinion, what else can I say! : )

(Check your free gmail /googleVoice account for availability of local numbers). (Note: no 911, use your cell for emergency). Easy peasy!

Enjoy Google Voice and OBi Talk! YEEHAW!

Best to all, and good luck.
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