Did MagicJack change your user and password?

MJForumUser · Post by **MJForumUser** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:33 am

I posted this under the 2.0.562d upgrade post. I'm posting it here because it looks like there's more directly related discussion here.

Last week my SIP credentials stopped working from my ATA. So I connected the dongle, got the 2.0.562d update and my new password, put the new info into my ATA and mjproxy and I was up and running again.

On Sunday night, I got a call at 9 PM EDT and it worked fine. Shortly after that, no dial tone. Checked and I was getting "unauthorized" response. So I plugged in the dongle again. There was no update but I did get a new password. So I put in the new password in my ATA and mjproxy and still not working. I changed proxies and still not working. I put the dongle in again and got the same password but it still won't work on the ATA. Tried a third time. Got a new password but still won't work in the ATA. I also tried connecting direct to talk4free proxy instead of through mjproxy, still no go.

It looks like the hash/encryption method might have changed and MJMD5 is not working anymore.

topflight05 · Post by **topflight05** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:08 am

MJForumUser wrote:I posted this under the 2.0.562d upgrade post. I'm posting it here because it looks like there's more directly related discussion here.

Last week my SIP credentials stopped working from my ATA. So I connected the dongle, got the 2.0.562d update and my new password, put the new info into my ATA and mjproxy and I was up and running again.

On Sunday night, I got a call at 9 PM EDT and it worked fine. Shortly after that, no dial tone. Checked and I was getting "unauthorized" response. So I plugged in the dongle again. There was no update but I did get a new password. So I put in the new password in my ATA and mjproxy and still not working. I changed proxies and still not working. I put the dongle in again and got the same password but it still won't work on the ATA. Tried a third time. Got a new password but still won't work in the ATA. I also tried connecting direct to talk4free proxy instead of through mjproxy, still no go.

It looks like the hash/encryption method might have changed and MJMD5 is not working anymore.

For me, the passwords are rotating. I think I'm done with MagicJack. I'll set the phone number to forward to another number.

MJForumUser · Post by **MJForumUser** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:23 am

The password changes almost every time you connect the dongle. I say almost because as I posted, it hadn't changed between two connects. However, as long as you don't connect the dongle the password is not changing. There is something else going on causing credentials that have worked, to stop working, and I don't think it's the credentials themselves. Something the MagicJack servers are checking for that the ATA is not sending. This can be seen because the connection errors are not necessarily the same as when the problem is a password change.

I've had the MagicJack since they first came out so I've been through all the changes. Whenever something is changed to make it not work on an ATA, I just switch back to using the dongle until I or someone else figures it out. Usually not more than a day or so.

youneeq · Post by **youneeq** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:38 am

Yep, after the first update from the other day and updating MJMD5 it was working but now it quit again with 401 Unauth'ed. Could it be the user-agent line? Didn't MJMD5 use MagicJack/1.80.484a(SJ Labs) Does it need to be recompiled with the latest which would be: User-Agent: MagicJack/2.0.562d (SJ Labs)?

MJForumUser wrote:There is something else going on causing credentials that have worked, to stop working, and I don't think it's the credentials themselves. Something the MagicJack servers are checking for that the ATA is not sending. This can be seen because the connection errors are not necessarily the same as when the problem is a password change.

mjc8870 · Post by **mjc8870** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:45 am

I am also unable to get it working with new password. I will standby and monitor this site for a solution.

MJForumUser · Post by **MJForumUser** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:11 am

mjproxy is not compiled with any User Agent; at least not the one I'm running. I just checked my copy of the source to confirm this. I'm fairly certain that MJMD5 isn't either.

topflight05 · Post by **topflight05** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:08 am

MJForumUser wrote:mjproxy is not compiled with any User Agent; at least not the one I'm running. I just checked my copy of the source to confirm this. I'm fairly certain that MJMD5 isn't either.

Yes. it's not compiled with the user agent, and its not a user agent problem - I modified the user agent in my local mjproxy and recompiled still-no go so then I tried the hash. I hardcoded the hash (from a previous dump) and recompiled and compared it against the mjproxy hash. i.e.:

Good response

Authorization: Digest username="EXXXXXXXXXX01",realm="stratus.com",nonce="7fc832567_02067",uri="sip:talk4free.com",response="a38f9e2a37f9eb656cffbf0f20c65a8d",algorithm=MD5

Bad response

Authorization: Digest username="EXXXXXXXXXX01",realm="stratus.com",nonce="7fc832567_02067",uri="sip:talk4free.com",response="b695b7354eb537c58228f5944af7a692",algorithm=MD5

This part in the mjproxy code was always vodoo to me, in the sense, is this standard or did someone manually figure this out?

char a1[128], a2[128], a3[128];

sprintf(a1, "%s:%s:%s",
inout_packetinfo->auth_.user_name,
inout_packetinfo->auth_.realm, in_passwd);
md5(a1, a1);

sprintf(a2, "%s:%s", inout_packetinfo->header_.method,
inout_packetinfo->auth_.uri);
md5(a2, a2);

sprintf(a3, "%s:%s:%s", a1, inout_packetinfo->auth_.nonce, a2);
md5(response, a3);

yazyazoo · Post by **yazyazoo** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:40 am

So if the MJ dongle is changing passwords each time we plug it into the USB port.

Is it possible to plug in the MJ password let it get the new password which we retrieve with MagicSipac.

Then put that into our ATA and LEAVE the MJ plugged in so the password doesn't change.

Will the ATA work with the dongle in place? Is this an option?

Or is the MJ dongle getting a new password with each call?

youneeq · Post by **youneeq** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:59 am

yazyazoo wrote:Or is the MJ dongle getting a new password with each call?

That worked for about thress days or so and then you get 401 Unauth'ed again. Plug in the dongle, dump the new pwd, then retry and no worky anymore like before. They changed something that needs to be hacked it seems.

scottexpat · Post by **scottexpat** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:38 pm

Hello:
My MagicJack died on my ATA a few weeks ago. I used SipDump to get the password, (unsure if it changed) and confirmed username hadn't changed. I updated my ATA but no connection. .

Today, I downloaded MJMD5 and ran it manually. I put the closest MagicJack proxy server into it for me, (Philadelphia) like this. .
proxy1.philadelphia.talk4free.com
I then entered my password found from SipDump and saved and entered

Next, I went to my ATA device and made only these changes. .
- under Linksys, Voice, Line 1
- Proxy: myPCIPAddress:5070
- Outbound Proxy: myPCIPAddress:5070

I made no other changes suggested in this forum to my PC or ATA device.
So excited. .Line 1 is lit and Magicjack has a dial tone now! I can make and receive calls. .how exciting!

1)I don't have Tomato or anytthing else on my Router. .is it necessary also?

2) Will the IP address of my PC change sometimes, (dynamic) or is it static? How do I enter a permanent IP into MJMD5 so I don't have to change all the time? I have ADSL at home.

3) has someone confirmed that MJMD5 from www.mediafire.com/?mmmt4wcnqyb is not malware or a virus?

4. are the Magicjack passwords changing all the time now meaning I will have to update the ATA and MJMD5 regularly?

5. I don't fully understand what MJMD5 is doing and its purpose? The MJMD5 has the real Magicjack Proxy listed, while my ATA is pointing to my home PC as the Proxy. Why is this setup needed? I don't like to have to always have my home PC on for that. Is MJMD5 using much system resources? Does MJMD5 affect voice quality at all?

6. Rather than having MJMD5 run as a service, I like seeing it in the taskbar of Vista. How do I set it up to start and login to my ATA automatically with Vista?

Thanks to all for the wonderful help.

Take care
Scott

q2n · Post by **q2n** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:29 pm

Have to retract my earlier post in this thread: www.phoneservicesupport.com/post63169.html#63169

When it LuckyYou'd me (to 2.0.562d):

- No problems for first 3-4 days, then changing PWs triggered
- Can not register except by dongle because new PW is issued every time
- User_name has not changed, still E...01
- Primary proxy has not changed

stav · Post by **stav** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:47 pm

Same here,
ATA down last week, retrieved new PW and up and running for 4 days. Today down again, PW has changed again and this time ATA doesnt work with the new PW.
Running MJMD5 on DD-WRT. Back with dongle but quality is by far not as good as with ATA.
Any guru left in the forum to help?

seti007 · Post by **seti007** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:25 am

stav wrote:Same here,
ATA down last week, retrieved new PW and up and running for 4 days. Today down again, PW has changed again and this time ATA doesnt work with the new PW.
Running MJMD5 on DD-WRT. Back with dongle but quality is by far not as good as with ATA.
Any guru left in the forum to help?

Im inthe same boat. MJ dongle is back on a PC for now until someone figures a way around it. The nettalk dongle is starting to look real attractive now. Im kinda tired of the MJ going down and having to try and figure out a way around it. This forum however, is a great place and has been a ton of help over the years.

andyha · Post by **andyha** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:33 am

This is my workaround for No MJ

I am in Canada, had a Telus phone my whole life. I finally packed them in 18 months ago and ported my home number to voip.ms. (I have had the same number for 20 years and din't want to get a new one) It is a REALLY great voip provider. DID is 1.99 per month and incoming calls are only $0.0149 per minute billed in 6 second increments. (You can also get unlimited incoming for 5.95 per month). I only use it for incoming calls.

I use the magic jack on my ATA for all my outgoing calls to the US and Canada and incoming from the US. What I am doing for now is using Whistle for my calls to the US. It's GREAT, completely FREE to send and receive calls to the continental US and simple to set up with your ATA. Call quality is fantastic (slightly better than MJ through ATA) If I lived in the US, and didn't need to call into Canada this is what I would use permanently. Using my voip.ms account to call Canadian numbers ($0.0052 per minute). The best workaround until/if someone figures out a fix for the MJ. If no solution is found, looks like Nettalk will gain another customer. Although $70 would buy me 13462 minutes(224 hours)of outgoing to Canada with voip.ms....so I might just stick with Whistle and voip.ms for a while and see what happens.

m8ra1yn1l · Post by **m8ra1yn1l** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:19 am

i'm parting ways with magicjack myself. their whole business model mirrors a ponzi scheme. i don't think they ever anticipated their customers to actually use their service as a replacement of a regular landline.
anyway, i didn't want to retire my linksys pap2 ata, so i've been looking around and found some reasonably priced sip/did providers that allow byod and does number porting.

http://www.callcentric.com - their pay per call plan is a good value if you don't use more than 500 minutes/month; number porting fee: $25
http://www.broadvoice.com - activation fee is kind of high ($29.95); free number port (included with activation fee?)
http://www.phonepower.com - from what i've read, they lock you out of your own ata once you're provisioned.. i'm guessing to enforce their contract? free number port
http://www.viatalk.com/ - also has an activation fee of $29.95 which includes number porting
http://www.makeacall.net/ - has cheapest unlimited calling plan in north america ($9.99/month), but number porting fee is $49.99
http://www.allvoi.com - this is what i finally decided on getting. you're assigned a temporary number until the port goes through. activation took place almost immediately. i haven't had any issues so far, call quality is good. number porting fee: $8.99

i think this whole mj password rotation episode has helped me realize that this was a deal too good to be true. it has serviced me for a good two years, but the uncertainty of how long each password would last me or whether the next upgrade will block the ata entirely, turned out to be too much. my second year is up in november (conveniently), and i won't be renewing. i think this is the best method to get dan's attention. anyway, if you have any other low priced sip providers that do byod + number porting, link them here.
thanks.

stav · Post by **stav** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:40 am

m8ra1yn1l wrote:i'm parting ways with magicjack myself. their whole business model mirrors a ponzi scheme. i don't think they ever anticipated their customers to actually use their service as a replacement of a regular landline.
anyway, i didn't want to retire my linksys pap2 ata, so i've been looking around and found some reasonably priced sip/did providers that allow byod and does number porting.

http://www.callcentric.com - their pay per call plan is a good value if you don't use more than 500 minutes/month; number porting fee: $25
http://www.broadvoice.com - activation fee is kind of high ($29.95); free number port (included with activation fee?)
http://www.phonepower.com - from what i've read, they lock you out of your own ata once you're provisioned.. i'm guessing to enforce their contract? free number port
http://www.viatalk.com/ - also has an activation fee of $29.95 which includes number porting
http://www.makeacall.net/ - has cheapest unlimited calling plan in north america ($9.99/month), but number porting fee is $49.99
http://www.allvoi.com - this is what i finally decided on getting. you're assigned a temporary number until the port goes through. activation took place almost immediately. i haven't had any issues so far, call quality is good. number porting fee: $8.99

i think this whole mj password rotation episode has helped me realize that this was a deal too good to be true. it has serviced me for a good two years, but the uncertainty of how long each password would last me or whether the next upgrade will block the ata entirely, turned out to be too much. my second year is up in november (conveniently), and i won't be renewing. i think this is the best method to get dan's attention. anyway, if you have any other low priced sip providers that do byod + number porting, link them here.
thanks.

Thanks for the listing. I use callwithus.com for international calls and I tried voip.ms. Both very good quality of sound

genxweb · Post by **genxweb** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:45 pm

I am thinking about offering my own service through a reseller account I have. I currently offer this service to people I setup asterisk solutions with but never really thought about offering it to the masses. It is bring your own device service as well.

If any one is interested let me know and I will look into what I can offer. Not sure if unlimited is a option or at least no where near the price of a mj a year but maybe I can fill a small void.

stav · Post by **stav** » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:01 pm

To be interested to the masses, your SIP service would have to:

Max $1/m and 1c/min inbound and outbound is the current standard for many VOIP providers. If you want to go unlimited, VOIP.ms has a $4.95/m flat, max.3500 incoming min/m.
Not an expert on voip by far, but MJ has a relatively good QoSound even with the dongle. With the ATA it is unbeatable.
Good luck and keep us posted.

scottexpat · Post by **scottexpat** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:58 am

Hi:
after updating password on voip router from dump and updating same on mjmd5 I can make calls w/o dongle. Have dial tone. but, when someone tries to call me my tel does not ring. .goes streight to magicjack voicemail. any particular reasons for this/.?

CaptWho · Post by **CaptWho** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:53 pm

That doesn't work for me. I just checked and my passwords are still changing.

kurtrad · Post by **kurtrad** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:46 pm

The low cost ride was nice while it lasted with my ATA hardware and MJ. However I am tired of the game and am leaving it behind. voip.ms seems to be very good. I got an account set up for about $1/month per DID and about $0.01/min incoming and a little more for outgoing. I am a low volume caller anyway. I have two geographic locations that both ring when I dial either of my DIDs and that is a nice feature for my needs.

I'll keep checking in here periodically to see how this progresses. Good luck all.

MJForumUser · Post by **MJForumUser** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:09 am

This last change pushed me to finally setup my Gizmo5 account with Google Voice and Sip Sorcery and it's running great for free incoming and outgoing. Here's a Google Doc which explains how to set it up in detail.
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ae8g ... NjeA&hl=en

The doc refers to Sipgate and Gizmo5 for the free DID but you can get a free incoming number from other places as well. Google Voice is now open to the public. SIP Sorcery is another story. I think they're closed right now for new accounts however doing a google search there are other ways to do it including running SIP Sorcery yourself or better, Asterisk.

All that being said, I haven't entirely given up on using my MJ. On another scan of the dump files I found that there are multiple possible passwords. In other words, in one dump I found two unique sets of 20 alphanumeric characters. Neither one of them worked for registering my ATA not directly and not through mjproxy. But I'm just offering some food for thought for anyone else working on this.

jjgurl · Post by **jjgurl** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:22 am

Fortunately my password hasn't been changing, used MagicSipac to find my password on mine and my brothers (I could be wrong, since I hardly use my account). Nope its still working. A week now.

MagicSipac found 135 passwords for each dump, 8 dump in total.

The basic program SIP.exe found random passwords but the more common one was the main password.

I still use MJMD5 and my brother doesn't (lucky bastard). I haven't abused my account nor does my brother (at least I don't think so).

I do wish MJ would provide the SIP information, even if it changed.
They can secure by one IP at a time (delay by 4000 seconds/ when the ATA registers) , well at least two ips and making the second one "outgoing only" (an option on the MJ device/software encase I forget to turn off the ATA at home or had to run out of the city on a whim with the MJ device.) or alow the MJ device to kick (temp ban) the ATA butts anytime.

EDIT: I spoke too soon.. Now i'm a victim of the revolving passwords
Now i'm going to complain to MJ

stav · Post by **stav** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:09 pm

MJForumUser,
Wonderfull info,..!! Thanks so much for sharing with us. There is alot of material to study, understand and try here. Now that MJ is slowly fading out of our sight, its time to look to alternatives like Google Voice.
Thanks again for sharing

CaptWho · Post by **CaptWho** » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:54 pm

jjgurl wrote:I spoke too soon.. Now i'm a victim of the revolving passwords
Now i'm going to complain to MJ

Let us know how that goes

newtoncd · Post by **newtoncd** » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:37 pm

jjgurl wrote:EDIT: I spoke too soon.. Now i'm a victim of the revolving passwords Now i'm going to complain to MJ

I would like to see that transcript.

jjgurl: my passwords are changing and I can't use my ATA

mj: we don't support ATA use, you must use the dongle

Kenny2469 · Post by **Kenny2469** » Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:33 am

I have two MJ's, one I use at home with the dongle and the other is never plugged in. That one I have the SIP info in my iphone and use it through that. That unit has not been subject to the revolving passwords im guessing cuz it hasnt been plugged in since i retrieved the passwords. The one plugged in IS revolving now.

So, if you dont have to plug it in, dont do it and you wont get the lucky upgrade and you should be fine... for now atleast...

scotty562 · Post by **scotty562** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:02 pm

My mj just went down as well yesterday. When I try it with mjmd5 and x-lite I get "registration error: 408 - Request Time out." I'm a bit hesitent to put the dongle in and check for a new password though..

Edit: Now I'm getting the 401 error. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

TOF · Post by **TOF** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:59 pm

scotty562 wrote:My mj just went down as well yesterday. When I try it with mjmd5 and x-lite I get "registration error: 408 - Request Time out." I'm a bit hesitent to put the dongle in and check for a new password though..

Edit: Now I'm getting the 401 error. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Same thing that drove me to NetTalk.com months ago. Clear calls, and affordable.

scottexpat · Post by **scottexpat** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:58 am

Hi all:
Magicjack stinks! They keep rotating passwords so our ATA's are useless. Never mind, that we all have paid for our service to begin with. Their technology never changes and their customer service is the worst!

I've given up on the ATA.

I just bought the netTALK DUO for a total of $44.82, (includes device, first year service, and shipping). 50% coupon code applied of:
NTLKCRZYDISC

Best part about it, is that it has an ethernet port to plug directly into one's router.

Magicjack is completely unreliable even if the hackers figure out how to get the ATA to work again.

Bach · Post by **Bach** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:25 pm

Thanks scottexpat for the code. I'm in for Nettalk. So sick of MJ which is unreliable.

However, I doubt about nettalk service. I called sales and she tried to sell me 10% off. The lady didn't talk nicely rather than pushing. The shipping for two devices was $19.xx as they don't combine shipping! It's hard to see this kind of service nowsaday. I just keep crossing my fingers if the devices would arrive before I leave for a long trip.

mavro6000 · Post by **mavro6000** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:13 am

Screw MAGIC JACK. I bought Net Talk!

RonV · Post by **RonV** » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:39 pm

Well I just ordered by NetTalk with the discount code you guys provided...can't wait to try it out.

Thanks eveyone for posts and code.

newtoncd · Post by **newtoncd** » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:43 pm

RonV wrote:Well I just ordered by NetTalk with the discount code you guys provided...can't wait to try it out.

Thanks eveyone for posts and code.

same here ... the promo is a great price also ... and, there seems to be a lot of switching going on .... for me, I didn't mind using the dongle, but with magicJack blocking so many area codes, I had to move on.

propizza · Post by **propizza** » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:39 pm

I have switched to NetTalk and I am happy so far. Had enough with magicjacks bs. I hope to be able to extract the credentials from my duo sometime, but it's not necessary.

sleepybrown · Post by **sleepybrown** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:33 am

add another to the list. I gots the rotating password syndrom. I bought my MJ from a market brand new. I just though I'd give it a try. I paid for an additional year so I have to figure out how am I going to cancel and what other voip service is around that does unlimited calling at a yearly or monthly rate. Then it has to let me use my pap2. I mean if you guys have any suggestions Im completely open. For canceling my account ill post any info I can find the live chat is b/s.

mj777 · Post by **mj777** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:00 am

sleepy, to be able to use your ata, you can look at voipo, you can get it for around 10/month all in with promo codes. nettalk duo, probably wont be able to get creds. voip.ms has great features does incoming for 5/month plus 1 cent min outgoing. i like those two best.

MST · Post by **MST** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:49 pm

This is right "Magicjack is completely unreliable even if the hackers figure out how to get the ATA to work again."

and real painfully true. I can't agree even more. People who knows even a little about VOIP figure it out MJ without plastic dongle works much better than in USB port. Already switched to TK6000 becasue MJ resets it passwords and users.

I am just curious about DUO SIP number in account but can't find that

Cheers

Spider210 · Post by **Spider210** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:44 pm

So is it done? Or did the passwords just change again, mine stopped working about 2 weeks ago and havne't yet plugged it in to see if my password had changed or something else

I dont even get 401 or anything I just get not found

neo2121 · Post by **neo2121** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:27 pm

just about done. The auth process needs to be figured out and I don't think anyone is really working on it

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Starting to transition away from MJ..

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