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SteveHC
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, their website and ads have deleted all references to call forwarding for months now...
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deltabox888
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: Call Forwarding. Reply with quote

I've had my Magic Jack from the get go. I have their original one. I used this link here and was able to turn ON call forwarding. No prompts for payment or anything.

I tested it and it's working fine as of Feb 5th, 2013.

https://web05.magicjack.com/my/call-forwarding.html
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Mazzie
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: MJ STINKS! Reply with quote

Today I changed my MJ number from a 407 area code to a 928 area code and paid $10.48 for the privilege. I have had 2 MJ's for a couple of years and paid for 5 years. My old 407 area code was forwarded to my home phone, but now I have changed my number they have disabled that feature and will not give it back to me. It is only disabled in this account, my other account still has the feature. Here is the conversation I just had with one of MJ's robot's. I say robot's because they don't appear to be able to speak on their own, only throw out canned responses all the time.


Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Alan'

Your Issue ID for this chat is X

Alan: Hello, how may I help you?

Marilyn: Hello Alan, how are you today?

Alan: I am good.

Alan: May I know the exact nature of your problem with full details please?

Marilyn: Alan, I have been a MJ customer for a few years now. I have always been able to forward my MJ number to my home phone, but today I changed my number, paid $10 for the privilege and now find that I am unable to forward my number anymore. I know that MJ is changing the forwarding to a pay system, however we are supposed to be grandfathered in to keep call forwarding for free if we are old customers, so therefore I should still be able to have my call forwarding. It was available when I purchased my MJ, therefore it should still be available for me now

Alan: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.

Marilyn: no worries

Alan: Please wait while I check that for you

Marilyn: If you come back and tell me that service is not available at the moment, I cannot accept that because it is still available for my other MJ account.

Alan: Thank you for waiting. I'll be with you in just a moment.

Alan: We understand how important the magicJack call forwarding feature is. However, the feature is unavailable at this time. We don't presently have any further details about this matter. We do expect the feature to be available again in the near future. Please check our website periodically for updates.

Marilyn: You are not listening to me....I said...If you come back and tell me that service is not available at the moment, I cannot accept that because it is still available for my other MJ account.

Marilyn: I know that MJ is changing the forwarding to a pay system, however we are supposed to be grandfathered in to keep call forwarding for free if we are old customers, so therefore I should still be able to have my call forwarding. It was available when I purchased my MJ, therefore it should still be available for me now.

Alan: Yes, for your other magicJack account. But since the engineers already did started updating the call forwarding those who have not enabled call forwarding can not do so, since the upgrade is still on going.

Marilyn: But I already HAD the call forwarding feature until I CHANGED MY NUMBER today

Marilyn: My call forwarding WAS enabled

Marilyn: If I had known you were going to disable it I would NEVER have changed my number. I am an OLD customer and therefore we should still be able to use the call forwarding

Alan: And since the phone number was changed the the call forwarding was removed. That is a different phone number.

Marilyn: BUT IT IS STILL THE SAME ACCOUNT!

Marilyn: STILL THE SAME MJ PLUS

Alan: Yes, but different phone number.

Marilyn: Why don't you tell people on your website that the call forwarding would be disabled if you change your number????

Alan: Call forwarding is and was connected on the phone number.

Marilyn: It's not connected now, it won't call forward

Marilyn: Why don't you tell people on your website that the call forwarding would be disabled if you change your number????

Marilyn: If you had said that on your website I would not have changed the number

Alan: It wont call forward since it was already disabled.

Alan: Since you change the phone number.

Marilyn: Why don't you tell people on your website that the call forwarding would be disabled if you change your number????

Alan: And the option to do call forwarding right now is not available.

Marilyn: Of course it's not because now MJ is going to make people PAY for the privilege of forwarding their number. However, we are supposed to be grandfathered in to keep call forwarding for free if we are old customers, so therefore I should still be able to have my call forwarding. It was available when I purchased my MJ, therefore it should still be available for me now.

Marilyn: It should not matter that I changed my number, I am STILL an old customer.

Marilyn: I do understand that because I changed my number the feature was disabled, but it should NOT have been disabled

Alan: Then what do you want me to do in my end?

Marilyn: I would like you to please enable my account to be able to forward my number to my home phone, PLEASE

Alan: Call forwarding is the process of calling ONE PHONE number then the call be forwarded to another PHONE number.

Marilyn: I KNOW WHAT CALL FORWARDING IS.

Alan: So if you change the Phone number. That new phone number was not set up to do call forwarding.

Alan: So it is understood that the feature will not be available.

Marilyn: Before I changed my number, my old number was forwarded to my home phone, now I cannot do that and I would like to have that feature back.

Marilyn: Why don't you tell people on your website that the call forwarding would be disabled if you change your number????

Alan: That is understood.

Marilyn: Oh good, I am glad you understand that, so what is the answer to my question please?

Alan: I will be right with you.

Alan: You want the information be present on the website?

Marilyn: I believe that you can re-enable that feature on my account if you want to, however, MJ have told you that you must not do it. That I unfair and when I purchased my MJ this feature was available for free. Now MJ are trying to make people pay for it when they bring the feature back.

Marilyn: YES, it should be available on the website

Alan: I believe I have already said that the feature is unavailable.

Alan: So I can not enable the call forwarding.

Marilyn: you did, many times, but I believe I also said: Why don't you tell people on your website that the call forwarding would be disabled if you change your number????

Alan: But I will tell the engineers to add this information on the website.

Marilyn: engineers are not web site designers

Marilyn: And....you and I both know that will not happen

Marilyn: It's just another way to grab money from the customers. Well, it will backfire on MJ one day. Tell your employer that if there are no customers he will have NO business and if he keeps pissing people off, he will soon have NO CUSTOMERS.

Alan: I believe I have provided all the necessary information that you need. I will end this chat now. If you have any other concern, please don't hesitate to chat us back. Thank you.

Since we haven't heard from you, we must release this chat. Please click here should you need further assistance: www.magicJack.com/techchat
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Pendres
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:42 am    Post subject: Dissapointed Reply with quote

I have numerous MJs distributed all around the globe for friends and family and have acted as a free salesman for several years, referring customers. Not anymore!

Call forwarding is very important for me and I am not willing to pay a cent more before my 5 year contract is over.

One thing for sure, I will not buy anymore MJs or refer anyone to it.
Once my 5 years are over, I will switch to NetTalk which seems to be a better system overall.

MJ lost it's niche and I don't trust it anymore. Tolerated their support due to the low price, but not worth it anymore.
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pnda1
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Call forwarding feature. Reply with quote

I've had my MagicJack since 2009 when I moved from Ontario to British Columbia (Canada) I have replaced my home phone & haven�t looked back since. I purchased a MJ Plus in 2010 which allowed me to connect it directly to my home modem & plugged it directly into my home phone lines. Both are working great. The call forwarding feature disappeared from my reg. log-in page about a year ago, but I contacted them via a chat screen & they directed my to http://www.my.magicjack.com/call-forwarding.html I've not had a problem with it ever, nor has it been mentioned that this will be a chargeable feature. Not sure why some people are having trouble with this.
This is still the best priced home phone. I travel a lot, and even when I�ve been in Italy or Mexico (using any locale high speed internet) I�ve been able to call out & receive calls using my MJ on my Laptop. LOOOOOVE my MagicJack.
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SteveHC
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Call forwarding feature. Reply with quote

pnda1 wrote:
...I've not had a problem with it ever, nor has it been mentioned that this will be a chargeable feature. Not sure why some people are having trouble with this.


- YOU continue to have access to Call Forwarding because you are a long-time user. People who've just gotten MJ over the past year or so (I believe) do NOT have access to it, not even via the link you provided.

The "announcement" of the changes in this policy, including the dropping of Call Waiting as an included feature and anticipated charging by the minute for it was buried in the Terms of Service and online FAQ's. You'll notice that in the products' current marketing descriptions (on the main retail website etc.) that there's no longer *any* mention of Call Forwarding as an included feature, and the new Call Forwarding FAQ online states the anticipated per-minute charges for it *if and when* they ever get around to implementing it (in the meantime, newer customer accounts have NO access to the feature at ALL).

The TOS states that the company has the right to basically do whatever they want whenever they want in pretty much all regards, that there will not be ANY advance notice to consumers of any changes to the services or prices, that any changes will be specified in revised TOS, and that it's incumbent upon the *consumer* to keep abreast of changes to the TOS (i.e. the company will not make the effort to notify us of any changes to the TOS). It's pretty crappy to say the least. They *reportedly* have even dropped access to the feature on older accounts that have simply changed their MJ phone number.
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CleverGuy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:28 pm    Post subject: Call Forwarding feature with Magic Jack Reply with quote

I am an old engineer and by definition a problem solver.
The problem is so easy to solve about that forwarding issue, I don't know why it is becoming a problem for everybody. Dan is stupid, get around him and transfer all your phone numbers to google voice and keep only one MJ number, (the one you will not forward). After a while if everybody do it maybe he will understand that trying to play game with people is not good financially. If he wants to make more money, he should be upfront with people instead of fooling around with features. Then you save even more money by having only one MJ, as google voice is free. I forward all my number to the one MJ that I kept to answer the phone at home. I also attached the MJ apps to my cellular phone with the MJ number which uses Data communication. The cellular phone rings at the same time as the home phone. I have a 100 minutes plan with unlimited web (no contract and so cheap $30/month, so it becomes an unlimited minutes plan). The number of my plan is a dummy number as nobody will ever see it because i use my MJ number to call people and that is the one that people will see. OK I have no ID when I call, but is it important? PS if you call somebody using google voice you will use those minutes as it doesn't use data communication as default. One thing that is funny, if I am using wi-fi in the house, I don't even need a sim card in the phone to call or receive calls. So the Plan on my phone is only when I am travelling outside. Another funny thing I can call in Canada with no long distance fees from my cellular now. At least Dan did good with that apps because now I am saving a lot of money on my cellular bill going from $200/month to $30/month. I had 3 cellular lines. If he could make the apps for my old blackberries it would be even better. But there is a hic that I am working on right now. It works very well on my ipod (yes my ipod is now an internet phone) but not at all on my android where the conversation is too choppy. After a lot of testing, I know the problem is not Google Voice, it is not my wifi, it is not the wireless network, and it is not MJ. It looks like the MJ apps works well on Apple products but not the apps for androids products. I am working on the problem (maybe it is an old android "my touch" or it is busy doing things in the background or too slow. But for now, I will say that for androids the apps is still in Beta version and for Apple it is fully release. So, I will wait for the full release of the apps for androids and use an iphone. Please guys, don't spread the words too much because if those communication crooks find out that we can save a lot doing this, they will find a way around this little trick. Who wants to buy my useless new spare magic jack plus now? Sorry Dan, your company will loose a lot of people now. It is sad because I could triple the size of your company in less than 6 months only by applying common sense.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:03 am    Post subject: Magic Jack charge customer when transfering out phone number Reply with quote

A few years ago, Vonage got sued for charging customer a termination fee ($35) and I got my money back through an action class lawsuit. However, charging a customer when you transfer a phone number to another communication provider, I am not sure if it is legal.
Google voice doesn't charge if they did not issue the phone number, but will charge $3 if they did. So you move from MJ to google voice, MJ charge you $30, 10 times more than google voice. But Google voice will not charge you anything when you will move out to another provider if the phone number was port to them previously from your previous provider. This is strange but it is what they say. So, now is it illegal? I don't know. Google do it and I would care less, it is only $3. However, MJ charge $30, like they want to screw you once more. It would be interesting to have the opinion from a lawyer because I feel that many people will move out of MJ soon with all the shit they pull playing with features and restrictions. Is there any lawyer on this site capable of answering that? For now, I think that google must have read the law before to implement this rule and if they do, than MJ would be in law to do it. The only thing is that $30 is very excessive to transfer a phone number.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the relevant laws/regs, there's nothing to prevent MJ or Google from charging a number "port-out" fee. HOWEVER, it appears that they can NOT refuse to port out your number if you just "happen" to not get around to paying the port-out fee (but there's nothing anywhere that says that they have to complete the number transfer *immediately*, so they can (and MJ, at least, does) take their sweet time about it. With MJ, if you have a credit card on file in your account when they receive the port-out request they will automatically post the $30 fee to the card and immediately proceed with fulfilling the request; but if you do NOT have a card on file they may wait a good month before proceeding.
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cell14
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With MJ, if you have a credit card on file in your account when they receive the port-out request they will automatically post the $30 fee to the card and immediately proceed with fulfilling the request

That's why you always use American Express when dealing with shady companies, one phone call will get you your money back in this case.
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but if you do NOT have a card on file they may wait a good month before proceeding

Things are apparently getting rougher . My ports, 17 and 11 months ago, were released within 48 hours- I off course refused to pay anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ported out from MagicJack to NetTalk last year when I lost call forwarding(I believe everyone that did not have forwarding turned on lost it). Magicjack tried to charge me to port my number OUT but I just ignored all emails and the port went through the day NetTalk promised. MagicJack can TRY and charge you and has the RIGHT to TRY and charge you to port the number out but they can NOT hold up a port because you did not pay for the port out.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject: So long MJ, I barely knew thee Reply with quote

So, I am a small business owner and today I decided I would experiment with MagicJack to see if it is a viable alternative to my existing Vonage service. I purchased MJ specifically because I read that you could forward your MJ number to your cell phone and even the offical FAQ on the company website states that this is possible, for a recently added fee of course.

Wouldn't you know it, I found this forum thread as I was waiting for one of their "live chat" people to get around to answering my question of why I couldn't access the call forwarding feature on my account. Seems they took it away for new customers and are not very good at making people aware of this.

Oh well, guess that is 3 MagicJack plus that will be going back to bestbuy tomorrow and a complaint about MJ the company filed with the BBB, glad I tested with a new number rather than port one of my existing numbers over.

So...what services do you folks recommend as an alternative to MJ that has good call forwarding features? I pay Vonage almost $100 a month for 3 phone numbers and its getting a bit absurd.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi netcraazzy

I am not a new customer to MagicJack. I am an old customer. I was one of the first and use to help people with their problems in magicjacks chat room they use to have where magicjack customers could go in and chat live with reps and other magicjack customers. They figured that was too helpful and they found that Magicjack users knew more than the paid staff. Dan use to go in the chat room from time to time and chat with us. That is why this forum was created to help other users after they took down the chat room.

I use netTALK now but there are a number of other services out there like ooma. netTALK is also available at BestBuy and Walmart so if you wanted to give it a try you could return it if you don't like it. Keep in mind though most services aren't really "UNLIMITED" calling anymore. Both Magicjack and netTALK limit how many minutes you can use a month. netTALK is 3000 mintues, so you may or may not be able to use it for your business. However netTALK does allow you to forward calls for FREE. There are things I like about netTALK over Magicjack (live phone support, louder volume, callerID w/ name, call forwarding) things I don't like about netTALK over Magicjack(seems to be a little bit longer delay on coversations,
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Call forwarding Reply with quote

Here is the conversation I just had....I like how when I stated that call forwarding would be a key factor for my decision whether or not to renew, we got disconnected.

You are now chatting with 'Jillian'
Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK554097270406X
Jillian: Hello, how may I help you?
Laura: Hello, When I purchased the magic jack, I was to have caller id and call forwarding, however, I do not have either. Can you please tell me why?
Jillian: Please be advise that caller ID only works when the device is plugged into the computer.
Jillian: We understand how important the magicJack call forwarding feature is. However, the feature is unavailable at this time. We don't presently have any further details about this matter. We do expect the feature to be available again in the near future. Please check our website periodically for updates.
Jillian:
You may download the FREE app and register it on the same account as your magicJack or magicJack PLUS and select the same number, if you own an android or Apple phone.

This way, you will still receive calls if you are not located in the same location with your magicJack device.

Laura: When will the call forwarding be available?
Jillian: We don't have any time frame. We appreciate your patience on this matter. We are working to provide better service through new features and options for our customer. As of the moment that feature is not yet available.


Laura: My account is to renew in July....this may be a key deciding factor. Thank you.
Jillian: Thank you.
Since we haven't heard from you, we must release this chat. Please click here should you need further assistance: www.magicJack.com/techchat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that it matters at all to this discussion, but as of yesterday, they are STILL forwarding calls to my MJ number into my GV number, although I closed my account at the beginning of November.

Just have to love how well run this company is.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Call Forwarding. Reply with quote

deltabox888 wrote:
I've had my Magic Jack from the get go. I have their original one. I used this link here and was able to turn ON call forwarding. No prompts for payment or anything.

I tested it and it's working fine as of Feb 5th, 2013.

https://web05.magicjack.com/my/call-forwarding.html


Thanks so much for posting that link. I sometimes forward my MJ to my MJP (it's worth the 20 a yr to keep the #) But I went to go turn on the fwrd last week because I decided to turn off my desk top and poof, no longer there.
Link took me right in, controls just as I had last used them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey stranger. Hope you are well.
I sent you a few emails and messages on Yahoo Messenger but never heard back.
Again I hope you are well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitstopjoe wrote:
Hey stranger. Hope you are well.
I sent you a few emails and messages on Yahoo Messenger but never heard back.
Again I hope you are well.

hum??? like I said on the phone, my reply got deleted. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They always delete posts from fisty redheads, don't you know that? Smile
I did a search for reverting to an older firmware on your plus but could not find anything. I also did a Google seach with the same result, sorry.
Hopfully their next update will correct the problems you are now having after your Plus was update to the latest version.
Maybe someone on here has an idea on how to rill back the Plus to the previous version..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the heck, I will just leave it on the big laptop. I really only use it to keep connected to TV for streaming and DVD movies. BTW after we talked today, I think my MJ audio is a little better w/ it on the pc than it was on the router.
It will give me a chance to create a contact list. ( Joe, your my 1st Wink

I know there is only export on the MJ site. Does any one know if there is a way to import contacts from MJ to MJP?

I would like to find a roll back, but chances are it would do the same thing that happened a couple of yr ago w/ the MJ update that made people loose their contacts. It would just re-update.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only difference being ( for now anyway) once (if) you roll back and then plug it into the router MJ can't update it until you plug it back into the PC.
I still think that 25' cable you are using to connect your router isn't helping any, which is why it maybe sounds better on the PC.
Your first huh????? Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I am NOT going there. hehehe
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitstopjoe wrote:
The only difference being ( for now anyway) once (if) you roll back and then plug it into the router MJ can't update it until you plug it back into the PC.
I still think that 25' cable you are using to connect your router isn't helping any, which is why it maybe sounds better on the PC.
Your first huh????? Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I am NOT going there. hehehe


I think you misunderstood me. The long cat5 is from the modem in the front of house,( incoming DSL) to router. not router to MJ. But I did order a new 3ft to try on MJ to router. I think there might be a problem w/ the cheap original.
Do you really think Magic Jack will start making all of us pay for call forwarding???
hehe, naturally they will wait till after I re-new in October.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:47 pm    Post subject: Magicjack Call Forwarding Reply with quote

Every time I talk to tech support they give me excuses every time what Ive been told there no going to bring it back. I did some looking and I found another service just like magicjack and better. It's called nettalk http://www.nettalk.com/en/duo They have more features then magicjack same price 30.00 a year. I'm tired of the crap that magicjack is giving us so I'm switching to nettalk.
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